I Was A Grad Student At Uc

As You Know, Microsoft Eventually Kind Of Grabbed The Gold Ring Out Of Apple's Hands, I Guess.

Being Idealistic Really Helps You Overcome Some Of The Many Obstacles Put In Your Path.

It's [programming] The Only Job I Can Think Of Where I Get To Be Both An Engineer And An Artist. There's An Incredible, Rigorous, Technical Element To It, Which I Like Because You Have To Do Very Precise Thinking. On The Other Hand, It Has A Wildly Creative Side Where The Boundaries Of Imagination Are The Only Real Limitation.

People Who Work On The User Interface Side Need To Have Empathy As A Key Characteristic. But If You Are Writing Device Drivers You Don't Really Need To Understand Humans So Well.

I Left Apple In April Of 1984, Pretty Soon After The Introduction Of The Mac.