'woman On The Plaza,' With Its Distinct

Increasingly, It's People Not Interested In National Geographic.

Though Geographic Didn't Publish That Photo In The Story That It Was Done For, "the Life Of Charlie Russell," A Cowboy Artist In Montana. But Later, Maybe A Year And A Half Ago, They Named It One Of The 50 Greatest Pictures Ever Made At National Geographic.

I Was A Consultant For Kodak Back In The Late 80's. There Were Engineers There Who Told Me That In The Future, Most Photographs Would Be Taken On Telephones. They Weren't Able To Do Anything With That. They Were Engineers, Not Management.

I Did It Once, And National Geographic Recruited Me. I Did It Primarily Out Of Curiosity. A Lot Of Legendary Photographers Had Worked On That Campaign. Ernst Haas Had Done The Early Photography, And I Knew Him. There's A Lore In Photography About That Campaign, And I Was Curious.

I Started Teaching In '76 And I'd Been A Photographer At The Geographic For Six Years. But Prior To Being At The Geographic I Was A Teacher. Plus My Parents Were Teachers And My Brother And My Grandparents. So It Was The Culture Of Our Family To Think About Teaching, To Talk About Teaching, To Talk About Teachers.