For Film And Television, It's Interesting How

With Portlandia, I Don't Think Our Intention Is Always To Find Something Funny. Sometimes The Humor Comes From Taking Something Really Seriously. We're Okay With Making Somebody Feel Uncomfortable Or Uneasy.

I Grew Up Outside Of Seattle, And Have Lived Here My Whole Life, And I Think That There Is A Culture Of Questioning, And Guilt. Almost An "anti-ambition." Like, An Awareness, And Then A Subsequent Guilt. But Sometimes That Progressive, Liberal Guilt Is Really Obnoxious, Too - In Some Ways, I Think It's Better To Just Own It. It's Weird, That Actually, The Acknowledgement Of Privilege Or The Enactment Of Guilt Can Be As Obnoxious As Anything Else. It's A Never-ending Rabbit Hole. We're Really In A Rabbit Hole Right Now, With This Conversation. We're Just Spiraling Down Into The Void.

It Wasn't Just Like, "i Want To Make A Record That Sounds Like Classic Rock" At All. It Was More Like, "i Want To Make A Record That Is A Little More Unsettling And Maybe Isn't As Easily Understood Now." That Just Seemed More Important, Like, For Me To Make As An Artist, Than It Was To Make Something To Make People Feel Safe Right Away.

People Are Wearing Fleece, Which Is A Hard Fabric To Be Angry In.

Well, In Some Ways I Had Sort Of The Opposite Experience Of Other People That Are Sort Of Dreaming Of Being In A Rock Band. I Was Dreaming Of Like Corporate Lunches And Just Like, And I'm Not Really Joking. Like The Whole Idea To Me Was Really Appealing.